Comments on: Shakespeare: The World as Stage http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/ Let joy be unconfined. Let there be dancing in the streets, drinking in the saloons, and necking in the parlor. Wed, 23 May 2012 05:37:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ben http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142489 Ben Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:46:51 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142489 Being admin has its privileges. I guess I'm used to thinking along a Kinsey continuum. I'll grant you than Shakespeare was in all likelihood more gay than not, but like generations of men before him, it wasn't quite so black and white. Being admin has its privileges.

I guess I’m used to thinking along a Kinsey continuum. I’ll grant you than Shakespeare was in all likelihood more gay than not, but like generations of men before him, it wasn’t quite so black and white.

]]> By: Lina http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142488 Lina Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:41:00 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142488 Hey, no fair, you got to edit out your mistake, but I've just made another one. :p Hey, no fair, you got to edit out your mistake, but I’ve just made another one. :p

]]> By: Lina http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142487 Lina Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:39:53 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142487 What he wrote for public consumption had to be from a heterosexual perspective, just as it does today. So I think only his private writings can give any indication of his true leanings, and those were GAY GAY GAY, lol. And I suppose this just comes down to a semantical argument, but I've of the opinion that which gender one has sex with is not the real indicator of one's sexual orientation, but rather which gender one has pitterpattery, loveydovey feelings for. What he wrote for public consumption had to be from a heterosexual perspective, just as it does today. So I think only his private writings can give any indication of his true leanings, and those were GAY GAY GAY, lol.

And I suppose this just comes down to a semantical argument, but I’ve of the opinion that which gender one has sex with is not the real indicator of one’s sexual orientation, but rather which gender one has pitterpattery, loveydovey feelings for.

]]> By: Ben http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142473 Ben Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:54:34 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142473 Well, bisexual because not everything he wrote was homosexual in nature. Wouldn't it technically be a requirement in order to successfully copulate with a woman, anyway? Well, bisexual because not everything he wrote was homosexual in nature. Wouldn’t it technically be a requirement in order to successfully copulate with a woman, anyway?

]]> By: Lina http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142457 Lina Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:50:40 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142457 Bisexual because he married and had children with a woman? Don't you think that was more likely because he was expected to do so? (And it happened at an age when he was probably too young to have embraced his sexuality, even if he had an inkling about it.) Bisexual because he married and had children with a woman? Don’t you think that was more likely because he was expected to do so? (And it happened at an age when he was probably too young to have embraced his sexuality, even if he had an inkling about it.)

]]> By: Ben http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142359 Ben Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:46:30 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142359 Well, bisexual is probably more accurate. Just like the Greco-Roman tradition. I've always heard about the "Shakespeare was gay" thing, but it's not the sort of thing that they usually bring up in the classroom. This is the first time I've ever read anything that said, in essence, "Well, yeah, he <em>was</em> gay." Well, bisexual is probably more accurate. Just like the Greco-Roman tradition. I’ve always heard about the “Shakespeare was gay” thing, but it’s not the sort of thing that they usually bring up in the classroom. This is the first time I’ve ever read anything that said, in essence, “Well, yeah, he was gay.”

]]> By: Lina http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142351 Lina Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:33:25 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142351 Urgh, will you edit suspicious to say suspicions? Urgh, will you edit suspicious to say suspicions?

]]> By: Lina http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142350 Lina Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:32:08 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-142350 Oh, yay, I'm glad you liked it. The most fascinating thing I got out of it is something that Bryson didn't really push but which dawned on me before he even brought it up: that Shakespeare was likely gay! I've read and seen so many of his plays (most not by choice, I must admit), but I've never researched Shakespeare the man. And if I had, I guess I would've come across the <del datetime="2007-12-09T04:44:35+00:00">suspicious</del> suspicions raised by the sonnets, but it seems like it's still just too controversial an idea for people to accept even now, because to me, someone who has no negative reaction to the idea, it seems OBVIOUS that he was gay, not merely a possibility. Not only did the sonnets provide proof, more or less, but like I said, it just makes sense given everything else about his life (his wife, his colleagues, his profession, etc). Oh, yay, I’m glad you liked it.

The most fascinating thing I got out of it is something that Bryson didn’t really push but which dawned on me before he even brought it up: that Shakespeare was likely gay! I’ve read and seen so many of his plays (most not by choice, I must admit), but I’ve never researched Shakespeare the man. And if I had, I guess I would’ve come across the suspicious suspicions raised by the sonnets, but it seems like it’s still just too controversial an idea for people to accept even now, because to me, someone who has no negative reaction to the idea, it seems OBVIOUS that he was gay, not merely a possibility. Not only did the sonnets provide proof, more or less, but like I said, it just makes sense given everything else about his life (his wife, his colleagues, his profession, etc).

]]> By: Jamie http://heliologue.com/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-141143 Jamie Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:28:08 +0000 http://heliologue.com/blog/2007/12/04/shakespeare-the-world-as-stage/#comment-141143 I'm trying furiously to get through the stack of backlogged books on my nightstand so I can get to this one. I recently discovered Bryson a couple of years ago and have been working my way through all his stuff. I’m trying furiously to get through the stack of backlogged books on my nightstand so I can get to this one. I recently discovered Bryson a couple of years ago and have been working my way through all his stuff.

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